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    PostSubject: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Sun May 30, 2010 7:13 am

    Description/History: This is the style commonly used by knights. In it's prime it was used on fully armored opponents to nullify their armor and destroy most infantry that got in the way. The style is commonly associated with longswords, broadswords, etc., but it has been seen used with rapiers. If one can utilize this style with a rapier, it could be transferred over to a katana or other japanese sword.

    The style was brought to Japan during an expedition voyage around the continent of Eurasia. After a short stop in Japan, a man by the name of Cornelius Faust stayed behind. This man was not only a practitioner of Älter-Ritterlich Kunst, but a practiced master of the style. He normally used a common longsword with the style, but also mastered the style with a rapier and eventually a katana. Though with these smaller blades some techniques are impossible, there are many opportunities with a lighter blade to be explored.

    Cornelius taught his style to many ranging from simple town folk to high level samurai/nin. Many chose to adapt their own swords to use the style, some chose to adapt a new blade. Whichever way they chose, the style has been gaining some recognition. This style was famous for its strength, but with the new generation of users agility and speed has become another deadly factor to the style.


    Status: Very Open. As in, if one has an idea for a technique then pm it to me, and I will review it (and probably like it) and request it get added.

    Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways)
    Stances: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst has many stances that must be observed and mastered to use effectively. Thankfully the stances are fairly simple so most people can master them with ease.
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    This is my first time doing this so please if you have any ideas, suggestions, opinions voice them. I would not only like this to be added, but to be as thoroughly developed as possible.


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    PostSubject: Re: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Sun May 30, 2010 7:55 am

    I support this style and would like to request it for my character as well. Since he's a foreigner, it wouldn't be out of character fro him to know it.

    However, since this is the naruto universe and there is no Europe, no Asia, I suggest you edit that part out. For example: My character is from Orlais (which is the Naruto universe equivalent to France).

    Also, you may want to incorporate the Weapon Specialist ability more so than the taijutsu knowledge skill since it represents prowess with a sword much more than taijutsu knowledge.

    EDIT: You should rephrase 'The sword impales the target almost entirely to the hilt.' with 'The wielder makes a deep stabbing attack, followed by an quick retreat of the blade at an angle, for defensive purposes.'

    The Meister Hau, Nachreizen [Master Strike, Before the After] should be an attachable skill to other tai or kenjutsus with a +4 to chakra cost.
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    PostSubject: Re: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Mon May 31, 2010 1:42 pm

    Kabump =D
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    PostSubject: Re: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Mon May 31, 2010 1:50 pm

    Kabump this back two weeks

    You posted this sunday, Requests are approved Saturday.

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    PostSubject: Re: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Sat Jun 05, 2010 2:27 pm

    Looks pretty damn good I'll be keeping an eye on those using it to see it's not abused in anyway though. Good job Shadow, Approved ~~
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    PostSubject: Re: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Sun Jun 06, 2010 1:34 pm

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    One of the most interesting aspects of Älter-Ritterlich Kunst is that it is a style that is deadly without the use of chakra.


    I'd like to inquire if this means the style uses no chakra for any of it's techniques. If that was so, then Shiro would have a problem, no surprise~

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    PostSubject: Re: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Sun Jun 06, 2010 2:58 pm

    Most of which don't. Some of the attacks are simple slashes or sword positions. Though Drei Wunder and Nachreizen use chakra due to their complexity. Plus we know you can't just swing a three times in an instant with mere human might so chakra is natural there, but attacks Zecke would be silly if they used chakra.

    I would like to say though that without the use of chakra it is like just swinging a sword. Meaning that the attacks themselves aren't that special, and most attacks are probably easily dodgable for a ninja. Plus most of these are utilized with a broadsword or longsword, something nin would have an easier time dodging in the first place. Though would it be unbelievable if someone used these sword in conjunction with other jutsu and such to remove that weakness. For example, I planned to use some of these attacks in conjunction with some Chisokuken speed jutsus so if I wanted to Hals Reißen someone in the face it wouldn't hit probably unless I rushed them with some speed in my feet.
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    PostSubject: Re: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:04 pm

    That's the point. Naturally, styles and forms would make sense as not requiring chakra seeing as they're simply points in which to move onto other techniques- However, if the attack is more than a simple attack, than it's a jutsu, correct? There would be little point in having a technique if it was no different than regular combat. What I consider a Jutsu is a strike that uses something abnormal, be exertion or how it's struck, in order to make it superior than normal combat. Now, you can bring up the Stamina versus chakra argument, but I'll go ahead and say that if it uses energy more so than usual, than it uses chakra.

    Now, an open style is going to be utilized by more than one person. More than you. So when I ask you if any techniques lack chakra usage to utilize them, it's not simply out of dislike of techniques that don't require chakra yet are consider high ranking, it's also out of the basis that others won't be able to sudden tell. There is no point in adding a style to a Kenjutsu list if you're going to expect people to have to look at your list to figure out such things. So, I'm going to ask you clarify which techniques you deem as not requiring chakra, and from there determine whether or not I find it acceptable. If you've looked out other taijutsu and kenjutsu styles, their attacks which you may deem "Simple" nonetheless require chakra, so I warn you, I may refuse freebies on some of your techniques.

    I'd also like to note that your style is still technically being approved, I'd just like to see if editing need to be made. No worries.

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    PostSubject: Re: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:17 pm

    I checked some others and noticed your point, primarily in Rakanken where they use their weight and gravity to hurt the opponent, but still require chakra to use. If I said my sword strikes didn't use chakra while those still use chakra there's no fairness there, so I left the costs blank instead of N/A for chakra values to be put in. I still think even while using chakra they are still clumsy for a ninja so dodging them is easier.

    Is it possible after something like this is approved that if I were to come up with some new techniques that if I requested it, could they be added? Or is it sort of locked from here? Or would I just have to develop them myself with an rp and just add them to my jutsu reservoir?
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    PostSubject: Re: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:31 pm

    Typically, no. Your jutsu list currently has a total of 15 jutsus. This, for a list, is a pretty good-sized one, and in comparison, the styles that are made by me tend to include a total of 10. So size wise, your style is pretty good.

    It is sorta locked at this point. The basis of this is that a Style is a currently existing and usually well-known. The techniques thus should be accessible by scroll or teacher. The same is for that of the "Generic" genjutsus and ninjutsus. They are techniques that have existed for some time. A Custom jutsu, on the other hand, is a newly created technique made by the user. It can still belong to the style, of course, but the main point is that you're not using a reference while making it. It's a technique that's created by you. Part of the premise of a styles is that through it's users the a style evolves different. We also don't want people to add jutsus to existing lists just so they don't have to RP for it and escape limits. A style allows you to have a fair amount to choose from, but doesn't let you cheat in the future. ^^ So, that's a yes to developing yourself. The same is true for clans, as well as the cloud ninpo I made. If I wanted to do something new, I'd have to make it myself.

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    PostSubject: Re: Älter-Ritterlich Kunst (Old Knightly Ways) - Kenjutsu Style   Sun Jun 06, 2010 3:35 pm

    Coolcool, I'm glad that's settled. Good to know too.
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